Joy Sandwich

On Episode 65 of the Joy Sandwich podcast, Non sits down with friend, coworker, and creative nonfiction extraordinaire, Janna Marlies Maron! Janna is the editor and publisher of Under the Gum Tree, which is a reader supported, quarterly literary arts magazine that publishes creative nonfiction and visual art. 

And guess what? Under the Gum Tree is celebrating its 5th anniversary! Not only is there no fee to submit your nonfiction stories this month, but there will also be an amazing simulcast/smorgasborde of creative nonfiction literary magazines on October 29 at 5 p.m. PT / 8 p.m. ET. Learn more here!

In this episode, Janna shares her origin story with reading, creative nonfiction, telling stories without shame, and the impetus for starting this amazing literary magazine. If you dig stories, you'll adore this episode!

Thanks to Janna for being a guest on Joy Sandwich, and thank you listeners for listening!

And as always, embrace your joy!


Janna sits front row center at a Paul McCartney concert!

Non scares two girls on his run!

Which one is more joyful? You decide! :D


Under the Gum Tree

Janna Marlies Maron

Janna on Instagram

Under the Gum Tree on Instagram

Under the Gum Tree's 5th Anniversary Simulcast

Under the Gum Tree on Facebook

Under the Gum Tree on Twitter

Patrick Rothfuss's The Name of the Wind and The Wise Man's Fear

Out of Print Clothing, "the best place for book nerds to shop"

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Joy Sandwich: The Joy of Language with Kory Stamper

On Episode 64 of the Joy Sandwich podcast, we delve into the Joy of Language with Merriam-Webster lexicographer/editor and new author Kory Stamper!

As you know, both Jessica and Non are language nerds, so it was such an honor to have Kory on the show to delight us with her knowledge of language, relaying stories about working as an editor at Merriam-Webster, her favorite swear words, and writing her new book (out in March 2017 and available for pre-order now!) Word By Word: The Secret Life of Dictionaries

We discuss Kory's origin story with words, growing up speaking German, studying language at an early age, how George Orwell's 1984 got her wheels turning, falling in love with language, prescriptivism vs. descriptivism, and so much more word-nerdy goodness!

Thanks so much to Kory for being a guest on Joy Sandwich. And thanks to you for listening, joy mongers!

And as always, embrace your joy!



Kory picks up her daughter from the Adirondacks (she's a wilderness guide), spends time with family, embraces silliness and fart jokes!

Jessica reads Harbinger by Joshua Dysart!

Non is having fun with audiobooks on long hikes/runs. A recent book is called Dragonhaven by Robin McKinley!




Kory's blog: Harmless Drudgery

Pre-order Kory's book: Word by Word

One of Kory's favorite words: Gardyloo!




"I have been a believer in the magic of language since, at a very early age, I discovered that some words got me into trouble and some got me out." - Katherine Dunn



From the ropes comes Episode 63 of the Joy Sandwich podcast with guests Brad and Bridget on the Joy of Wrestling! Both Brad and Bridget (or "Bradget" for short) find so much joy in the sport/art/entertainment/culture of wrestling that it is just infectious and lovely to listen to. 

On this episode, we break down what wrestling is all about (we know nothing), the fascinating history of wrestling (Attitude Era!), the blood (crimson mask!), the drugs, the sweat, the "smarks," and the storytelling of wrestling!

Thanks so much to Brad and Bridget for sharing their joy of wrestling with us! And thank you, joy monger, for listening!

And as always, embrace your joy!


Summer Slam




The Wrestler and the Cornflake Girl





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On Episode 62 of the Joy Sandwich podcast, Non sits down with author and all-around smartypants and lovely human, Evelyn Skye! Evelyn wrote a book, The Crown's Game, which is great and you should all go read it pronto. Evelyn also has a ton of fascinating things to say about creativity, determinedly following our passions, a writer's origin story, balancing the wild abandon of the artist with the necessary structure of a disciplined writer, and that time she was offered a job by the CIA.

If you love reading, writing, and just being super inspired creatively, we think you'll adore this book!

Thank you to Evelyn, and to you for listening!

And as always, embrace your joy!




Evelyn will be at Pasadena Loves YA book festival on September 17 from 12-4pm! As will we (or at least Non will be)! You should come meet Evelyn and other amazing authors! The event is totally FREE and you can RSVP on Facebook here.



@EvelynSkyeYA on Twitter

Evelyn_Skye on Instagram

@JoySandwich on Twitter

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Oh, to be curious! On Episode 61 of the Joy Sandwich podcast, Jessica and Non welcome Captain Curious himself, Jeff Wagg of the College of Curiosity, onto the show to discuss the Joy of Curiosity! Jeff is a truly fascinating human with gargantuan levels of knowledge about all the things. He's a deeply curious person doing some pretty wonderful things in the world—spreading the joy of curiosity, creative learning, and exploration!

In addition to discussing the joy of curiosity, we talk about the witches of The Salem Witch Trials, why it's important for us to ask questions, Jeff's incredible background (one of the first AOL employees + being one of The Amazing Randi's speed dial numbers!), skepticism, paranormal hunters, the dangers of curiosity, and the "pale blue dot!"


Thanks so much for listening, joy mongers!

And as always, embrace your joy!



Jeff is filled with joy finding characters on Pokemon Go adventures!

Non finds joy in recent trips to the beach for surfing with Josh (even after watching The Shallows)!

Jessica also found joy in spending a refreshing time at the beach!



College of Curiosity

James Randi Educational Foundation

Skeptoid Podcast

Letting Go of God by Julia Sweeney

Get Curious: How Curiosity Replaced Revelation 

Quirkology by Richard Wiseman

City Museum in St. Louis, MO

Pantophobia Podcast

Pale Blue Dot by Carl Sagan

Kelly Sue DeConnick and Matt Fraction's State of the Union

An Honest Liar

Drive by Daniel Pink

"It's not just the cat: curiosity kills our happiness" by Jean Hannah Edelstein



@ColofCuriosity on Twitter

College of Curiosity on Facebook

@joysandwich on Twitter

Joy Sandwich on Facebook




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On Episode 60 of the Joy Sandwich podcast, Jessica and Non are back together again for an hour of silliness! That's right, we're talking about the Joy of Silliness today!

We discuss why silliness brings us joy, specific ways we love to be silly (dancing to Footloose, making up songs, not giving a care in the world what other people think of us, being present!), and much more. Don't miss out on our silly Disney song singing at the end of the episode too!

And as always, embrace your joy!



The amazing sci-fi/horror/adventure Netflix show, Stranger Things

Variety interview with Stranger Things creators, the Duffer Brothers

The "West Wing meets The Good Wife meets Men in Black" show, BrainDead



Non's sweet, hip-thrusty dance moves

Silliness leads to more creativity



@joysandwich on Twitter on Facebook

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On Episode 59 of the Joy Sandwich podcast, Non invites the lovely Dwight Hurst, host of The Broken Brain Podcast, onto the show to talk about Joy & Tragedy. Both Dwight and Non delve deep in conversation about how we can reconcile those two things, both joy and tragedy.

Tragic things happen around us all of the time, whether it's in our own personal world or happening to our fellow humans. How do we reconcile our feelings of wanting to embrace joy while being mindful of the tragic things that are happening to us or around us? We talk about perspective, control, and some specific ways we can help ourselves and each other during these times! 

Thanks again to Dwight for being on the show! And remember, "look for the helpers."

And as always, embrace your joy!




Black Lives Matter and Police Hold a Cookout!

Dwight goes on a soda pop adventure!

Non and Jessica are going to be moving into their own apartment!




Dwight on Twitter @Breakabrain

The Broken Brain Podcast

Amygdala Magazine

Joy Sandwich on Twitter @joysandwich

Joy Sandwich

Joy Sandwich on Facebook




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On Episode 58 of the Joy Sandwich podcast, Non goes on a solo mission through some exciting upcoming guests on the show, recent joys in television, movies, books, and friends, then delves briefly into why Joy Sandwich (and joy) is important to us!

We haven't had the time to do a legitimate recording, so we hope you can glean a sliver of joy in this episode. Lots of great stuff upcoming on the show! Stay tuned!

Thanks so much for listening!

And as always, embrace your joy!



Movies: The Lobster, Sing Street, Parenthood

Books: The Name of the Wind, Hyperbole and a Half, Barnaby the Firefly, The Autumnlands

TV: Preacher, Humans, Marcella



Twitter: @joysandwich


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Hello, readers, writers, book nerds, and joy mongers! On Episode 57 of the Joy Sandwich podcast, Jessica and Non are so delighted to welcome Norm and Becky Leonard onto the show! Norm and Becky are lovely humans who have created their own book publishing company, Peachwood Publishing, the "family run craft bookery!" So cool. Plus, they have their first book out, the hilarious and sweet and truly adorable Barnaby the Firefly!

In this episode, we talk about the wonder of words and language, the importance of storytelling and reading to your children, the ins and outs of book publishing and creating your own publishing company (with kids as integral business partners!), parenthood, screenwriting (Norm does dark!) doulas (Becky, you rock!), creative independence, birth stories (Becky has a book coming out in the fall called The Nourished Pregnancy!), and, yes, we even talk extensively about placentas!


Special 10% Off Discount for Joy Sandwich Listeners! + A Book Giveaway Game on Twitter!


Save 10% on your order of Barnaby the Firefly by using the code "joy" at checkout! If you are a parent or you have a parent or soon-to-be parent in your life (or simply like sweet stories), you'll absolutely adore Barnaby the Firefly! Order 3 books and get free shipping!

Order here and use the code "joy" at checkout!


Plus, play a word game with us on Twitter for your chance to win a free copy of Barnaby the Firefly!


Thank you so much to Norm and Becky for being wonderful guests of the show! And thank you, joy mongers, for listening!

And as always, embrace your joy!


Recent Joys

Books: Norm and Becky find joy in The Life-Changing Magic of Tidying Up: The Japanese Art of Decluttering and Organizing. It has "changed their lives!"

T-Shirts: Jessica's finding joy in nerdy t-shirts. We wholeheartedly recommend Out of Print!

Camping/Backpacking: Non is finding joy in planning for an upcoming camping and backpacking trip with his mom! Bears!


Find Us Online

Peachwood Publishing

Peachwood Publishing on Facebook

Peachwood Reviews (Charlee reviews stuff!)

The amazing illustrator Ana-Gabriela Stroe

Save 10% on Barnaby the Firefly with code "joy" at checkout!


@joysandwich on Twitter

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Happy listening (and reading)!


On Episode 56 of the Joy Sandwich podcast, Jessica and Non welcome astounding comic book artist and creator Benjamin Dewey to the show! We dig into Benjamin's work, specifically The Autumnlands and The Tragedy Series, as well as talk about Benjamin's childhood growing up in a museum with secret passages (like a middle-grade book protagonist!), the profundity of Carl Sagan, the intermingling of tragedy/absurdity and joy, the responsibility of being a creator, balancing satisfaction and happiness, and so much more!

This was a pretty sprawling conversation about art, philosophy, religion, science, and happiness. We loved it! And we thank Benjamin Dewey for guesting!

And as always, embrace your joy!


Recent Joys

Books: Dark Matter and the Dinosaurs by Lisa Randall, The Varieties of Scientific Experience by Carl Sagan, Cosmos by Carl Sagan, Waking Up by Sam Harris

Movies: Contact (dir. Robert Zemeckis)


Follow Us Online

Benjamin on Twitter: @BenjaminDewey

Benjamin on the Web:

Read The Tragedy Series! 

Read The Autumnlands! 

Go visit Benjamin at Rose City Comic Con in Portland!


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